As a JW for almost forty years, I thought when I was a kid that the teaching was each creative day was a thousand years. At some point I remember it changing to 7000.
Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. Or maybe it was just one of the many things they taught that I had my own slant on. The first time I ever really remember realizing the 7000 year thing was in the Creation book.
Is my memory faulty or did they change this at some point?
Also what year did the Creation book come out?
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NEED HELP !!! 7000 yrs. ??
by thinker inthe wt claims that each "day" in genesis (chap.1) is really 7000 yrs.
can anyone provide an explaination of this belief?
please list references from wt literature or scripture that backs up this idea.. personally, i can find nothing; which is interesting since so much jw doctrine and teaching hinges on this number "7000".. thinker
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Marrying "Only in the Lord"
by TMS inthe wt definition of "only in the lord" meaning only dedicated witnesses of jehovah in good standing greatly narrows the field of eligible mates.
this has brought about some unusual unions because of the circumstances, involving people who would ordinarily not meet, let alone marry, if it were not for a shared belief system.. what unusual couplings have you seen in your jw days?
how large was your personal field of possibilities and did it include some unusual options?
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Cath,
Loved hearing again from you!!! You can email me if interested, my box is open.
Would love to share if you like!!
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Help - I'm in Love
by Downdog01 inhi i work with a smart, sexy, single jw who i get a along with great and over the years i've developed enormous affection for her.
based on this i don't want to do anything to hurt her.
i am not a witness and though i would like to pursue her romantically my sense is if she were to accept my overtures it could ruin her life since her family is very involved in witnessing and close association with one such as me could lead to reprimands for her.. my question is this.
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I beg your pardon Rob?! I considered us chilhood when we met!! You haven't lost me!!!!
I'm like a bad penney I just keep rolling back!
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Marrying "Only in the Lord"
by TMS inthe wt definition of "only in the lord" meaning only dedicated witnesses of jehovah in good standing greatly narrows the field of eligible mates.
this has brought about some unusual unions because of the circumstances, involving people who would ordinarily not meet, let alone marry, if it were not for a shared belief system.. what unusual couplings have you seen in your jw days?
how large was your personal field of possibilities and did it include some unusual options?
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Welcome to the board Cathy, I could hear my own experiences echoed in your words.
I am glad you have some hard won happiness. Never sell yourself short!!
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Marrying "Only in the Lord"
by TMS inthe wt definition of "only in the lord" meaning only dedicated witnesses of jehovah in good standing greatly narrows the field of eligible mates.
this has brought about some unusual unions because of the circumstances, involving people who would ordinarily not meet, let alone marry, if it were not for a shared belief system.. what unusual couplings have you seen in your jw days?
how large was your personal field of possibilities and did it include some unusual options?
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Great topic TMS. My husband (a non witness) and I discuss this topic frequently.
I am a real people person. I also like to observe people. One thing I noticed growing up was that most of my friends parents didn't show affection to each other. I always wondered about this, because my parents who are witnesses always held hands at the KH, ect. They got married in 1958 in the "truth". To this day they are best friends.
IMO, that is not the usual in the Witnesses though. I know of so many very unhappy and frustrated marriages. So many unfulfilled people.
I too married in the "truth". A Bethelite of four and a half years. I was 21 he was 24. Within the first two weeks of marriage he started abusing me emotionally and verbally. We stayed together for almost seventeen years. Within that seventeen years, he managed to beat me down to almost zero self esteem. I gained A LOT of weight. I was very depressed. Clinically. You know not your everday blues. He hit me once, I beat the crap out of him and told him if he ever hit me again I would kill him. (every once in awhile my spunky self would come out) That resulted in an elder and CO telling me I should have never hit him. I did get in their faces that day and tell them they knew nothing about abuse and that they should never, never, never tell another human being not to defend themselves against abuse. I know that if I had let him get away with that, that would have never stopped. Of course during the last three to four years of our marriage that didn't stop him from holding me up against the wall by my arms and screaming his favorite verbal abuse (fu@#%$# bi@#$) in my face. (he was a MS BTW) He had also been an elder for awhile and a regular pioneer almost up to the end. It was truly horrible.
For some unknown reason he left me in September of 1997. We were divorced in May of 1998. What a relief!!! Of course, I had been so very lonely for so long. So in October of 1998 I started making efforts to meet some men.
Thinker came along. And the rest is Paradise history. I always knew that if I found the right person to be with it would be wonderful. And it is. We love each other beyond words. Share all of our innermost feelings and deeply respect each other. We are best friends.
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Proposed Goals for AJWRB
by Lee Elder inperhaps this forum can serve as a place for some serious discussion regarding the direction that ajwrb will take in the coming months.
this document lays out proposed strategy and goals for ajwrb.
we would like you to evaluate the contents and offer your views.
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Comf,
I may be wrong, but the connection I saw in that statement is general neglect of their children.
If a parent lost a child because of failing to give them the needed medical attention that could be crucial to saving their lives, this would IMO, be serious neglect!
Might be a stretch, but there does seem to be a connection. Although I see your point. No sense in looking like we are rabidly in pursuit of destroying their credibility any way we can.
Needs to thought out very carefully, obviously.
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No Special Relationship
by thinker inthe following case illustrates, in legal terms, how the wt feels about it's members:.
http://www.courts.state.me.us/99me144r.htm.
maine supreme judicial court .
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Typical. As a JW for almost forty years this isn't really a surprise. I was molested when I was seventeen, by a man who claimed to be of the annoited. I was publicly reproved. He was privately reproved. Meaning that no one in his congregation knew anything about what he did. How many other girls did he molest in the ensueing years? I shudder to think.
Translation:they "privately rebuked" Baker; and (3) and they temporarily "forbade Baker from having any contact with minor members" of the church. The defendants did not alert the members of the church to Baker's misdeeds.
Eventually, Baker was allowed by the defendants to resume activities as an ordinary member of the churchAll this mean is that he had his commenting privileges and possibly giving talks taken away from him. Depending on the size of the congregation, it is possible no one even noticed.
They may have given a vague talk on certain wrong sexual behaviors, but in my experience this is only done when public reproof is given. So probably the congregation, if they noticed him not commenting or giving talks for a period of time had no clue as to why.
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Help - I'm in Love
by Downdog01 inhi i work with a smart, sexy, single jw who i get a along with great and over the years i've developed enormous affection for her.
based on this i don't want to do anything to hurt her.
i am not a witness and though i would like to pursue her romantically my sense is if she were to accept my overtures it could ruin her life since her family is very involved in witnessing and close association with one such as me could lead to reprimands for her.. my question is this.
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Down Dog,
Based on what I have read of your description of your Lady Love, she is definitely having some doubts. Very fresh indeed though.
First clue. JW women never study the Bible with men. Just isn't done. So the fact that she agreed to a private discussion with you is interesting to say the least. Second clue, JW women don't develop relationships with "worldly men". Again, she has deviated from the usual mind set with you.
Sounds like there could be some hope. But do not ignore what all the others here have said to you. It could be a long rocky road, and in the end, you don't want her to resent you for what she has lost.
The post about planting seeds of doubt seems to be the most logical course to me.
I am an ex JW. Born and raised in it. I was already on my way out when I met my husband, Thinker. But his interest and loving concern in my background of being a JW has really helped me to see far beyond what I saw about them when I was on my way out.
If you really love this lady, patience and genuine concern for her feelings is of ultimate importance!!
Good Luck!!
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Newbie saying hello and glad to be here
by Calico_Cat inhello, i've been lurking the board for quite sometime now and i have also read crisis of conscience.
my hubby and i stopped attending the meetings since december and had our first christmas in 6 years.
it was fun although the feelings of guilt are still within us.. we've been visited by the elders twice but we managed to keep them at bay.
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So many cats and so little time. Thinker and I have two too!!!!! Now that I am with Thinker though, I am chopped liver. They love him!
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Hope no one posted this yet!
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Prince Swears off CursingNEW YORK (AP) - A G-rated Prince?
It may be hard to believe, but the singer who once provoked shock waves with his X-rated lyrics has sworn off cursing and is preaching about the importance of virtue in the May edition of Gotham magazine.
Prince, who is now a Jehovah's Witness, said that ``when you use those (curse) words, you call up all the anger, all the negatives times the word has been used before - you bring it toward yourself. Why would you want that?''
Prince also told the magazine that teens need more God in their lives.
``When I look at the violence, I wonder where the parents are, but also where is God in their lives? A kid is an open computer ready for programming. Some weird relationships happen, smoking too early and sex.''
Jehovah's Witnesses are an apocalyptic group that interprets the Bible differently than traditional Christian organizations.
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